tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post8321795522697480647..comments2009-10-08T23:10:11.674-04:00Comments on Summorum Pontificum: The Hope Was Nice While It LastedPatrick Archboldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13230114519933936165noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-21769818608849196602008-06-24T13:13:00.000-04:002008-06-24T13:13:00.000-04:00Hate to say it, but I told you so. But what I tol...Hate to say it, but I told you so. But what I told everyone was that the journalists were blowing steam, especially about the 'prelature'. IT WILL NOT BE A PRELATURE BUT A DIOCESE OR ITS EQUIVALENT. They keep bring up 'prelatures' because they are referring back to their ignorant notes of 2000 and 2001. They were wrong then and they are wrong now.<BR/><BR/>But what we are on the verge of is Step Two. If the Society signs to the five points, Rome will withdraw the excommunications and other penalties. She might also clarify at the highest level (the P.C.L.T. and NOT the P.C.E.D.) whether or not Society Masss fulfil the obligation and under what conditions (if any). That could be major--major.<BR/><BR/>I note that H.H. recently replaced Cardinal Vallini, head of the Apostolic Signatura, Vallini was widely believed to oppose the contention that the Society Masses do not fulfil the obligation (that's what a canonist told me). I am wondering if there is a connexion there. But I cast this as speculation, not as some fact supported by nothing.<BR/><BR/>P.K.T.P.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-75860450717095217242008-06-24T12:57:00.000-04:002008-06-24T12:57:00.000-04:00When the public reads the five conditions, and rea...When the public reads the five conditions, and realizes how reasonable they are, pressure will increase dramatically on Bishop Fellay to make this first simple act of submission.<BR/><BR/>The five conditions could only be seen as harmful by the most schismatic branch of the SSPX, a branch Bishop Fellay might need to trim if he is to hope the SSPX will have any future in the business of saving souls.Brian Kopphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02575906703463685178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-63614975155830706102008-06-24T11:06:00.000-04:002008-06-24T11:06:00.000-04:00So, the SSPX is on the verge of rejecting (if repo...So, the SSPX is on the verge of rejecting (if reports are accurate) the same proposal that was good enought for Archbishop Lefebvre?<BR/><BR/>It's really about time the SSPX stop "playing church" and get with the program. <BR/><BR/>Circumstances change. Whatever state of necessity might have existed in 1978, or even 1988, certainly does not exist in 2008.<BR/><BR/>Things are still far from perfect, but they'll always be that way -- we live in a fallen world. <BR/><BR/>What would have happened if Noah and his family never left the Ark, even after the deluge had subsided??? <BR/><BR/>I imagine that they would have eventually starved to death.<BR/><BR/>Spiritually, I think that is what's happening within the SSPX.<BR/><BR/>+DRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-91031277378165080782008-06-24T10:41:00.000-04:002008-06-24T10:41:00.000-04:00It might not be over yet! Let's wait for a defini...It might not be over yet! Let's wait for a definitive statement from either side. 28.vi.08 is the deadline.Sid Chttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07081842343551030817noreply@blogger.com