tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post7651605717275642805..comments2009-10-08T23:10:31.840-04:00Comments on Summorum Pontificum: Advocatus Diaboli: The Supply SidePatrick Archboldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13230114519933936165noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-27798686489652467972008-09-18T21:43:00.000-04:002008-09-18T21:43:00.000-04:00"From the point of view of orders it may be short ...<I>"From the point of view of orders it may be short term, but from the point of view of the laity..."</I><BR/><BR/>It might be more accurate to say "immediate" rather than "short-term." Then again, maybe not.David L Alexanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13871706129906941567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-2334429451345683072008-09-18T21:33:00.000-04:002008-09-18T21:33:00.000-04:00The major focus of such orders right now, is on th...<I>The major focus of such orders right now, is on the training of diocesan priests to celebrate the Traditional Mass themselves. While arguably a short-term solution, it has been determined to be the best one for the immediate future. </I><BR/><BR/>From the point of view of orders it may be short term, but from the point of view of the laity, the majority of whom will ALWAYS be served by diocesan priests except in very rare, missionary circumstances, the willingness of diocesan clergy to learn and to offer the EF is essential.<BR/><BR/>Dan - i seem to remember that private chaplaincies have been abolished in canon law since the early 20th century code, but I'm not a specialist.TheCrankyProfessorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15044204782286107779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-90312609292493379102008-09-03T15:50:00.000-04:002008-09-03T15:50:00.000-04:00The revisions to the translation of the reformed R...<I>The revisions to the translation of the reformed Roman Missal are just that, revisions. Compare that to a different way of saying the Mass, with a different set of books and a different set of instructions.</I><BR/><BR/>Understood, I'm just thinking in orders of magnitude. Neither one is particularly difficult for a man with some intellect, which one might presuppose if said man made it through the rigors of seminary.<BR/><BR/>With the changes coming in the OF reimplementing chant and the Ordinary responses being said more often in Latin, the learning curve is going to be close between the new OF and the tried and true EF.<BR/><BR/>I look forward to experiencing both. As a sometimes attendee at Our Lady of the Atonement in San Antonio (Anglican Use) I know the OF can be done splendidly, in Latin and English. As a sometimes attendee at Holy Rosary in Indianapolis, I know how beautiful the EF is.<BR/><BR/>When it comes right down to it, I'll take what is available and well done, when it is available. That is what most people want...well done liturgy in accordance with what the Church wants.<BR/><BR/>I just look forward to the day I don't have to drive for two hours to find it. It will be refreshing if we return to a place in time when I can find it by walking to my parish church.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the wonderful work.Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17082518947777526780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-53940234314804986492008-09-03T15:19:00.000-04:002008-09-03T15:19:00.000-04:00"Implementing SP won't be any more difficult than ...<I>"Implementing SP won't be any more difficult than implementing the liturgical changes coming down the pike with the release of the new Roman Missal and the changes coming in sacred music."</I><BR/><BR/>You might also "keep your eyes" on the evidence. The revisions to the translation of the reformed Roman Missal are just that, revisions. Compare that to a different way of saying the Mass, with a different set of books and a different set of instructions. That the reformed Missal is the one in "ordinary" use, to use the juridical term, by itself suggests it would get more attention.<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying that's good or bad, I'm just saying that's how it is.David L Alexanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13871706129906941567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-77582139938805444072008-09-03T15:07:00.000-04:002008-09-03T15:07:00.000-04:00Implementing SP won't be any more difficult than i...Implementing SP won't be any more difficult than implementing the liturgical changes coming down the pike with the release of the new Roman Missal and the changes coming in sacred music. Guess which one will get priority? I'm thinking that SP was largely a gesture. Even if a clarifying document is released, it won't change much in the order of "they way things are." Most bishops just aren't behind it, and most priests won't cross their bishop. Things won't change overnight. Work and act and pray for the long-haul. Keep the faith. Live the faith. Keep your eyes on Christ.Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17082518947777526780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-35527813352055485572008-09-03T14:06:00.000-04:002008-09-03T14:06:00.000-04:00My wife and I are planning to build a chapel and a...My wife and I are planning to build a chapel and a living area for the priest on our property.<BR/><BR/>Do you know if we can bring a priest here to offer the Gregorian Mass daily?<BR/>Would we need permission from the Ordinary?<BR/><BR/>We ive in a very rural setting very far from the urban areas that typically offer the TLM and my wife is ill so we find it very difficult to drive for an hour or so, one way to Mass.<BR/>This is why we are hoping to have a church on our property and anyone that wants to assist may.<BR/>Do yu know any priests that would be willing to come here?<BR/>Diocese of Raleigh NC<BR/><BR/>Great article and God bless youDan Hunterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14823464458933233001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-24102644342663702402008-09-03T13:13:00.000-04:002008-09-03T13:13:00.000-04:00"I think this falls into the line of what Einstein...<I>"I think this falls into the line of what Einstein called a 'thought experiment'... thinking things through along with their consequences to get a theoretic outcome."</I><BR/><BR/>Hey, never thought of that. But now that you mention it, it's not a bad way to reason things out.David L Alexanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13871706129906941567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-22390134271345061472008-09-03T12:04:00.000-04:002008-09-03T12:04:00.000-04:00Excellent work so far.. I think this falls into th...Excellent work so far.. I think this falls into the line of what Einstein called a "thought experiment"... thinking things through along with their consequences to get a theoretic outcome. I agree with you TOTALLY on one major point... this (reform) will take more than a Motu Proprio and longer than one liturgical year to be realized. <BR/><BR/>Interestingly I was reading a document from 1928 concerning the 25th Anniversary of Pius X's Motu Proprio, the thrust of which was encouraging, but lamenting that "His wise reforms" were still largely ignored in many places, and the predominant opinion of many Bishops was that the reforms did not apply in their Diocese. Where have we heard that before? <BR/><BR/>Anyway, thank you for this series so far... I am waiting for the next installment!Chironomohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13024533507945352862noreply@blogger.com