tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post6711549627327657357..comments2007-07-13T22:26:14.457-04:00Summorum Pontificum : Summorum Pontificum - July 11, 2007Patrick ArchboldBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-65923185100772539882007-07-13T22:26:00.000-04:002007-07-13T22:26:00.000-04:00I live in the Diocese of Rockville centre. That r...I live in the Diocese of Rockville centre. That response is as sad as it is unsurprising. The diocese is huge and the only offer one regular Sunday mass that is over 50 miles away from me and about 90 miles away from some east enders. <BR/><BR/>When this is the Bishop's view of wide and generous, this type of response is to be expected. This is going to be an interesting few months leading up to September 14th.Patrick Archboldtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-23768064827463508662007-07-13T21:40:00.000-04:002007-07-13T21:40:00.000-04:00He must be buddies with Bishop Murphy of the Dioce...He must be buddies with Bishop Murphy of the Diocese of Rockville Centre. <BR/><BR/>A pastor we know said that an email was sent to the parishes advising them that there would be three “centers” within the Diocese. That’s it. Like detention centers, but we’ll leave that alone for now.<BR/><BR/>He also told us that the word from the Chancery is that the documents were “mistranslated” and “misinterpreted”—“some think that it means they will be FORCED to offer the Latin Mass” but in truth it’s just a “suggestion.” We asked him if he had actually read the documents. The answer was no. We tried to hand him a copy and he physically moved back as though we were making the kind offer of a viper.<BR/><BR/>He said that not enough Priests know Latin. We gently suggested that our Priests are a well educated bunch and since they have proven themselves to be so adept at learning Spanish, we had every confidence that they could learn the language of the Church, too. We said that since we knew he was skilled in the use of Latin that perhaps he would offer us his interpretation of the documents when he had a moment to read them. Response: a blank stare.<BR/><BR/>That’s OK. We heard the message loud and clear. There’s room in the Church for everyone … those who like Carribean Masses, Gospel Masses with everyone in dashikis, polka masses, charismatic masses with people falling over. Yes, room for everyone … um, except for YOUR sort.Anonymoustag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-15851377747777787012007-07-12T11:25:00.000-04:002007-07-12T11:25:00.000-04:00"Am I right, ot am I actually losing my mind?"Neit...<I>"Am I right, ot am I actually losing my mind?"</I><BR/><BR/>Neither. You don't have all the information. Neither did I, until...<BR/><BR/>man with black hat: <A HREF="http://manwithblackhat.blogspot.com/2007/07/critical-mass-view-from-pittsburgh.html" REL="nofollow"><B>Critical Mass: The View From Pittsburgh</B></A>David L Alexandertag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-60212736439135364042007-07-12T10:44:00.000-04:002007-07-12T10:44:00.000-04:00This statment:"It is important to note that the ce...This statment:<BR/><BR/>"It is important to note that the celebration of the Roman Missal of Pope Blessed John XXIII is not permitted at regularly scheduled weekday or Sunday."<BR/><BR/>Is not only contradicted by Article 5, <BR/>"Celebration in accordance with the Missal of Bl. John XXIII may take place on working days; while on Sundays and feast days one such celebration may also be held."<BR/><BR/>but is also contradicted by the following statement in the same diocesan letter, thus:<BR/><BR/>"In parishes where a group of faithful attached to the previous liturgical tradition exists stably, pastors are exhorted to willingly allow public Masses for the people using the Roman Missal of Pope Blessed John XXIII but no more that one per Sunday and feast days."<BR/><BR/>Am I right, ot am I actually losing my mind?Simon-Peter Vickers-Buckleytag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-7587441521078143482007-07-12T08:18:00.000-04:002007-07-12T08:18:00.000-04:00Fr. DiNardo makes two primary mistakes in his lett...Fr. DiNardo makes two primary mistakes in his letter, they being:<BR/><BR/>1. SP does NOT say that a parish has to have a stable group in order to celebrate the sacraments other than mass, as he intimates.<BR/><BR/>2. With all due respect, he is not qualified to say that no other stable group exists in the diocese of Pittsburgh. He very well may not know that there exists a parish where several dozen parishioners have already approached the pastor and asked for the TM to be available to them on a regular basis. Put simply, Fr. DiNardo is not omniscient. Thus, he cannot definitively state that no other stable group exists in Pitts. To do so would be presumptuous on his part.Anonymoustag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-42717253607164907112007-07-11T09:49:00.000-04:002007-07-11T09:49:00.000-04:00We also have to remember that at this point Pittsb...We also have to remember that at this point Pittsburgh has no bishop, so these misinterpretations of Summorum Pontificum will hopefully be cleared up when Benedict appoints someone.Ignatius51tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-78685897824622605322007-07-11T00:14:00.000-04:002007-07-11T00:14:00.000-04:00I suspect the restriction imposed by the Diocese o...I suspect the restriction imposed by the Diocese of Pittsburgh will be easily challenged, once it appears that there are priests who are competent to celebrate the Mass according to the "classical use." This will be interesting to watch, as most other dioceses appear to be cooperative, at least publicly.David L Alexander