tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post5272060080490375155..comments2009-10-08T23:10:11.697-04:00Comments on Summorum Pontificum: Are "The Five Conditions" necessary and reasonable...Patrick Archboldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13230114519933936165noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-64424190379112633532008-06-25T10:58:00.000-04:002008-06-25T10:58:00.000-04:00Mr Perkins,I am unable to log on to Father Zuhlsdo...Mr Perkins,<BR/>I am unable to log on to Father Zuhlsdorfs blog WDTPRS.<BR/>I have no idea why.<BR/>Could you possibly send me his comments on the five conditions?<BR/>I thank you so much in advance.<BR/>my e-mail danphunter1@aol.com<BR/><BR/>God blessDan Hunterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14823464458933233001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-55407375697452685202008-06-24T19:43:00.000-04:002008-06-24T19:43:00.000-04:00On this analysis here and that of Fr. Zuhlsdorf, t...On this analysis here and that of Fr. Zuhlsdorf, there needs to be one clarification. Here is the fifth point:<BR/><BR/>"A commitment to respect the date – fixed at the end of the month of June – to respond positively. This will be *a* [emphasis added] required and necessary condition for the immediate preparation for adhesion to have full communion."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Note the indefinite article which I have emphasised. Our present commentators' points are mostly good, but I urge people to re-consider what this letter is. It is a first step. The Pope is not saying, as Fr. Zuhlsdorf wrongly assumes over on his site, that the Society need only accept these five points in order to achieve regularistion. Not a chance.<BR/><BR/>No, acceptance of these five points will lead to the next step in the process, not the last one. I predict that it will lead to a withdrawal of the declarations of excommunication. It's a good step forward.<BR/><BR/>Rome will not regularise the Society until the Society formally accepts the documents of Vatican II as interpreted in the light of tradition. The sticking point (at least today) is what is meant by this tradition. The Society holds (as I do) that it is something which cannot change in the act of transmission. Divine truth does not evolve because God, being perfect, cannot change. Therefore, a teaching from the past must be interpreted in the sense in which it was originally understood.<BR/><BR/>This is not the post-conciliarists' notion of tradition at all. However, it is not absolutely necessary that the two parties agree on this. Rome could grant that the Society's undertanding of tradition as a hermeneutical tool is not heretical or forbidden, even if Rome is not prepared to grant that is must be correct. But I'm not sure that the Society will accept even that.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, let us pray that the Society does accept this first step, so that Rome can, with hope, declare a withdrawal of the declarations of penalty. A fortiori, I pray that, at the same time, Rome will deliver an authoritative declaration (one coming from the body which has the competence in the matter, which is definitely not the P.C.E.D.) that the Society Masses fulfil the Sunday obligation. That would be a major boon.<BR/><BR/>Peter Karl T. Perkins<BR/>Victoria, B.C., <BR/>Dominion of CanadaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-67212780599875942232008-06-24T16:34:00.000-04:002008-06-24T16:34:00.000-04:00I might have a different idea of just who is insan...I might have a different idea of just who is insane...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6570809348314913884.post-50439957757211240312008-06-24T15:40:00.000-04:002008-06-24T15:40:00.000-04:00I argued for some time that the SSPX needs to sepa...I argued for some time that the SSPX needs to separate themselves from Bp. Williamson and his friends in tin foil hats.<BR/><BR/>The question is are they willing to let the radicals go there own way or is internal unity more important than unity with the church?<BR/><BR/>We shall see.Patrick Archboldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13230114519933936165noreply@blogger.com