Thursday, July 3, 2008

"a “Novus Ordo” that the SSPX could accept without theological reservation?"

By Brian Kopp

There is a very encouraging report making its way around the blogs. RorateCaeli posted about it here and Fr. Z. here. Translation by Gregor Kollmorgen of NLM.

Here's the substance of the report:


The rite of the Mass [Rorate: i.e. the Mass of Paul VI] could change. According to some indiscretions, Benedict XVI has charged the Congregation for Divine Worship to study some modifications in the liturgy. In particular, the Pope is said to have the intention to restore Latin for the formula for the Eucharistic consecration within the Mass in the "vernacular language", i.e. the one celebrated in the different national languages. The same could happen to the formulae of Baptism, Confirmation, Confession and of the other sacraments. In addition, the exchange of peace among the faithful during the Mass, which today takes place prior to the distribution of the Eucharist, could be anticipated (as in the Ambrosian rite) to the offertory so as not to disturb the recollection that precedes Communion.

These would be changes which would be added to the changes in the liturgy and regarding sacred vestments which the Pope, together with his Master of Ceremonies, Monsignor Guido Marini, has made in recent months, to recover ancient traditions: the restoration of the crucifix at the center of the altar, the distribution of Communion to the faithful in the mouth while kneeling, the recovery of the pastoral staff of Pius IX (the ferula), the changing of the style of pallium (the strip of white wool with red crosses worn by the Pope), the restoration of the papal throne used in the Consistory and the celebration of Mass with the back to the assembly, as happened in January in the Sistine Chapel.
A poster on the thread at RorateCaeli made an astute observation:
I recall a video on You Tube by Bishop Bernard Fellay of the SSPX. It was from May of 2007 from their chapel in Oregon; he was giving a conference. At the time, he was not to confident that there would even be the motu proprio which came, thanks be to God, not long thereafter.

However, in this lecture he said, if I can paraphrase, “about a year ago spring 2006) I was made aware that a high-level panel was in secret, working on a new Missal for the Novus Ordo to repair the damage and make it more Catholic."

Essentially, it involved fewer options, though one option would be using the “Offertory” from the 1962 Missal in the vernacular in the Novus Ordo and the
suppression of all Eucharistic Prayers except EPI, the Roman Canon, and EPIII.

The three year lectionary would remain.

If this were to happen, it would make sense and it would coincide with the new Vox Clara Commission translation including the “pro multis.”

Could this then be true?

Could we also be on the verge of the elimination of the indult for Communion in the hand and a strong push or even mandatory ad orientem celebration?

If the above happens, would that not be a “Novus Ordo” that the SSPX, while not required to celebrate, could accept without theological reservation?
Certainly worth hoping and praying for.


Anonymous said...

Perhaps there could be an N.O. which the S.S.P.X could accept without theological reservation but it would have to be a wild reform. Liturgy has a context, and that context is the Traditional Latin Mass. Departures from that context have to be justified. For example, I don't see how anyone could ever justify the omission of the Placeat Tibi near the end of the Mass, for the removal of overt reference to Sacrifice implies a reduction in reverence.

Secondly, even if the S.S.P.X could accept an N.O. without theological reservation, there are other reservations too. I, for one, could never accept the N.O. I don't mean that I refuse to recognise its legitimacy or validity; in fact, I even attend it on rare occasions, when there no other way to fulfil the obligation. I mean 'accept' here in a more psychological sense. To me, it represents everything that went wrong in the Church.

While I do not wish to advocate a reform of the reform, I don't oppose this in principle, and I do favour it insofar as it is impracticable to abolish the N.O. altogether.

The danger in all this, of course, is that the Traditional Latin Mass might one day be merged with the N.O. I don't want one single word of NewMass intruded into the Mass of the ages, including the new lectionary which the Pope likes so much. What happens when one mixes together a good product and a bad one? You end up with a mediocre product. Our Lord deserves better than that.

Anyway, God the Holy Ghost will ultimately decide what is best. He will not take liturgy lessons from Freemasons or from liberals such as Annibale Bugnini, men bent on destroying the Mystical Body of Christ.

For the forseeable future, we need to see to it that, howsoever NewMass is reformed, it is not mixed with that pearl of great price, the Traditional Latin Mass--the Gregorian Rite.

Anonymous said...

Latin at the consecration is complete nonsense in Asian countries.

Chironomo said...

Why is Latin at the consecration nonsense in Asian countries in particular? Is Latin "more foreign" in Asia? It can't be less familiar than it is in English speaking countries. Is it simply the total disconnect between western and eastern languages?

I know next to nothing about Oriental languages and am asking this question in total sincerity.

Anonymous said...

"Latin at the consecration is complete nonsense in Asian countries."


Dan Hunter

Ted K. said...

Bp. Fellay's comment referred to above can be found starting near the middle of this clip:;=related

JP said...

Deo gratias! Denique... Postremo... Sanctissimus Noster Pater audit consilium Pii Decimi P.M. qui nobis restorare omnia in Christo monuit. Latina vere difficillima non est! Discenda omnibus est!